IVANKA TRUMP SLAMMED FOR IGNORANT POSTS DURING ALLEGED $2,950-PER-NIGHT VERMONT SPA VACATION

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Ivanka Trump is facing a bit of backlash on Instagram and Twitter for the timing of some of her tweets and posts, and the messages contained therein. Ivanka posted on Instagram and Twitter on Friday, August 18, and urged people to “pray for Barcelona,” as reported by the Daily Mail. However, Ivanka’s silence on praying for the victims in Charlottesville — namely riot victim Heather Heyer, who lost her life in the melee — is being mentioned on social media. Whereas 35-year-old Ivanka used her large Twitter and Instagram following to spread a message that terrorism in any form threatens freedom everywhere, and included the #PrayForBarcelona hashtag in her post, Ivanka’s followers were quick to note that she didn’t pay tribute to those injured or killed in Charlottesville in the same manner.

As seen in the comments section of Ivanka’s Instagram post about Barcelona, many comments are calling Ivanka a hypocrite, and asking her why she didn’t post tributes to the terrorist act that happened when James Alex Fields, Jr. rammed his car into a crowd of people crossing a street, killing one person, as reported by the Inquisitr. One of the sample comments Ivanka is receiving can be read below.

“Terrorist here in America… that took place last week… why not post about that and the families who lost loved ones? Wait, it was a #whitenationalistAttack… so lets not talk too much…. because the fake news report will broadcast #alternativefacts yet we have an #AlternativeLeader…”

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Ivanka followed up her tribute to Barcelona with a post about the solar eclipse, even as news was breaking about Steve Bannon leaving his position at the White House. According to the New York Times, Ivanka and Jared Kushner are vacationing in Vermont, and not taking a vacation in Croatia, as was previously reported by the publication.

As reported by Valley News, Ivanka and Jared flew on a Trump helicopter that refueled at the Lebanon Municipal Airport on Monday, next moving on to land in Barnard, near the Twin Farms five-star, all-inclusive luxury hideaway, a resort and spa whose rooms go for up to $2,950 per night.

People reports that with Bannon leaving the White House, Ivanka and Jared are being blamed for his ouster.

“Jared and Ivanka helped push him out. Bannon being removed changes everything.”

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Social media users had also called on Ivanka and Jared to speak against the anti-Semitism that was displayed during the Charlottesville march, wherein the crowd chanted words of the Nazi slogan “blood and soil,” and screamed about Jews not replacing them. According to People, Ivanka and Jared have concerns about how they are being viewed by the Jewish community. According to the White House, Ivanka and Jared had no role in Bannon leaving.

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Ivanka Trump Tweets Right After Bannon Is Ousted & It Is Completely Ridiculous

The art of deflection is a delicate one that takes much talent. Surprisingly, President Donald Trump is actually really good at it — although that’s simply because he refuses to face facts and will blatantly lie.

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However, his daughter showed off her own deflecting skills on Twitter Friday when she tweeted about the looming solar eclipse that will be happening on August 21. Of course, Ivanka could have tweeted about many other things, considering the previous week had been filled with racism, bigotry, violence, and death. That’s not even taking into consideration that Steve Bannon was removed from his position in the Trump administration the same day she tweeted. She could have tweeted something about working with Bannon. Surely having her own special office in the White House would mean she worked with Bannon. Therefore, a tweet along the lines of wishing him the best and enjoying working with him would be more than appropriate. However, she chose to tweet about the solar eclipse, with a tweet that is factually incorrect.

Ivanka tweeted:

‘On Monday, the US will witness its first total solar #eclipse since 1979. It will be visible in every state. Where will you be? #Eclipse2017’

First, Ivanka needs to pay attention to current events and science, because her tweet is wrong. The solar eclipse will NOT be seen in every state of America. Also, her deflecting skills may need some working, on considering Twitter users responded by refusing to allow Ivanka to veil the truth that her father’s administration is crumbling around him.

 

‘Are you trying to eclipse your father’s circus at the White House?’

‘Seriously? That’s your care right now?!’

‘Seriously? This so what you chose to tweet today?’

‘There is already a large dark shadow over us. It began 6 months ago. But this too shall pass.’

‘White house eclipse is looking much better than a natural solar eclipse..And it’s visible all over the world ma’am.’

‘Look at Ivanka pretending whole admin isn’t collapsing under weight of Daddy’s paranoia, bigotry, & mental instability. Adorable!’

‘Astrology predicts war will begin during eclipse… It happened in Germany in 1945..’

‘Are you going to play Total Eclipse of the Heart when your Daddy is impeached #Impeach45 #TheResistance’

‘That is like seven million in Scaramucci years–or one million Bannons.’

‘Slow news day?’

‘That is not priority at the moment.Your daddy is confusing and creating chaos in the country./world # readrevelation last book in the Bible.’

‘Celebrating bannon’s ouster! #BannonFired’

‘You are kidding me? You must be witnessing the total eclipse of the heart by refusing to speak up.’

‘She could have, at least, reminded people to wear special glasses to avoid eye damage; or does she want more Americans as blind as her?’

‘A lot of people don’t know this, but, your Dad invented the eclipse. Made it in China.’

‘One tin soldier rides away… Up next: Miller, Gorka, Kushner, @IvankaTrump, most #despised @POTUS ever bka @realDonaldTrump #RESIGN!’

‘Celebrating the firing of @SebGorka and Stephen Miller? We need all the racists out.’

‘Seriously Ivanka? With everything going on, U comment on eclipse. Oh and thanks because NO ONE would’ve known about it but for your tweet’

‘How irrelevant and tone deaf can you possibly be? Also, thought you were focused on your specific projects? Doing science now?’

‘An eclipse isn’t enough to draw attention away from the evil dangerous joke of a @POTUS that is your father #Charlotteville’

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BREAKING: Steve Bannon Is Out! (DETAILS)

Steve Bannon has been removed from his position in Trump’s cabinet, as reported by the New York Times Friday morning. Rumors have swirled since Bannon was hired, but as Charlottesville tensions mounted, Trump obviously felt pressure to get rid of his alt-right pal.

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According to NY Times:

“President Trump has told senior aides that he has decided to remove Stephen K. Bannon, the embattled White House chief strategist who helped Mr. Trump win the 2016 election, according to two administration officials briefed on the discussion. The president and senior White House officials were debating when and how to dismiss Mr. Bannon. The two administration officials cautioned that Mr. Trump is known to be averse to confrontation within his inner circle, and could decide to keep on Mr. Bannon for some time.”

A source close to Bannon insists it was Bannon’s idea to resign from the cabinet, that he had turned in his resignation on August 7th, but that it had been put on hold after the events in Charlottesville that claimed the life of 32-year old Heather Heyer. Bannon had apparently “clashed for months with other senior West Wing advisers and members of the president’s family.”

 “The loss of Mr. Bannon, the right-wing nationalist who helped propel some of Mr. Trump’s campaign promises into policy reality, raises the potential for the president to face criticism from the conservative news media base that supported him over the past year.”
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Trump Goes On Retweeting Frenzy During Friday Twitter Spazz-Out

After a week of being deserted by members of his manufacturing council and chastised by politicians from his own party, President Trump has been in desperate need of an ego boost. This morning, seemingly in order to bolster his self-esteem, he’s been busy retweeting people who have good things to say about him, while also bragging about his latest move regarding the U.S. Cyber Command.

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Trump first retweeted two posts from conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, who said that he has spoken to several influential “GOPers” and has concluded that support for Trump has actually increased, despite what the mainstream media would have people believe.

 elite MSMers and virtue signalers are persuading themselves that @realDonaldTrump supporters are deserting. They are not. 1.

 elite MSMers and virtue signalers are persuading themselves that @realDonaldTrump supporters are deserting. They are not. 1.

I spoke to a group of influential CA GOPers tonight, long time activists, bundlers, influencers. Support for @realDonaldTrumphas increased

Trump also tweeted a link to an announcement about his decision to elevate the status of the United States Cyber Command to a “Unified Combatant Command focused on cyberspace operations.”

According to a statement published on the White House’s website, the purpose of this elevation is to “strengthen our cyberspace operations and create more opportunities to improve our Nation’s defense.”

The statement also notes that the elevation will demonstrate the U.S.’s  “increased resolve against cyberspace threats” and also “help reassure our allies and partners and deter our adversaries.”

Trump about the elevation on Friday morning:

I have directed that U.S. Cyber Command be elevated to the status of a Unified Combatant Command focused on….cont: http://45.wh.gov/CyberCommand 

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I have directed that United States Cyber Command be elevated to the status of a Unified Combatant Command focused on cyberspace operations.

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Plenty of people were quick to comment on Trump’s announcement, and the majority made it clear that they have very little faith in his plans.

BREAKING: Steve Bannon Is Out of Trump’s White House

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New Report Reveals How Close Trump Is To Impeachment; This Is Big

Donald Trump is on the verge of following in Nixon’s footsteps. A stunning new report reveals jut how close Trump is to being impeached and thrown out of the Oval Office.

 

In anImage result for trump crying article released by Brookings, the traitor-in-chief could be six votes away from conviction in the Senate. Let me reiterate that: SIX VOTES.

Following impeachment in the House, a trial takes place in the Senate. Conviction requires two-thirds of the Senate and by my count there are already twelve senators who have shown a willingness to take on the president when they believe he is in the wrong.

If you add that to the forty-eight Democrats in the Senate (who have shown no inclination to work with this President), Trump days as  president may  be over before the year ends.

The only way Trump’s impeachment would be executed properly, is if Mueller continues his investigation into the Trump campaign’s massive secrets, evidence of weakness in the Republican base come forth; historical trends indicating a possible Democratic takeover in the House and, last but not least, defiance in the Senate, which Trump has already checked off the list. Completely disregarding the Senate has not helped Trump’s cause whatsoever. Article I of the Constitution gives the Senate last word on the whether or not his presidency will continue. And as Brookings pointed out:  Instead of making friends in the Senate, Trump has done exactly the opposite.

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‘I hope Trump is assassinated,’ Missouri lawmaker writes

In this Sept. 10, 2014, file photo, Missouri state Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal speaks on the Senate floor in Jefferson City, Mo. Chappelle-Nadal says she posted and then deleted a comment on Facebook that said she hoped for President Donald Trump's assassination. The Democratic Senator says she didn't mean what she posted Thursday, Aug. 17, 2017, but was frustrated with the president's reaction to the violence last weekend in Charlottesville, Va.

A Democratic Missouri state senator from University City posted, then quickly deleted, a comment on Facebook saying she hoped President Donald Trump would be assassinated.

As a result of Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal’s comment, the U.S. Secret Service’s St. Louis field office is investigating and both Sen. Claire McCaskill and the chairman of the Missouri Democratic Party have called on her to resign.

Chappelle-Nadal told The Star she posted the comment out of frustration with the “trauma and despair” the president is causing with his statements about the events in Charlottesville, Va.

“The way I responded this morning was wrong,” she told The Star. “I’m frustrated. Did I mean the statement? No. Am I frustrated? Absolutely. The president is causing damage. He’s causing hate.”

Chappelle-Nadal posted the comment on her personal Facebook page, which is not open to the public.

“On my personal Facebook, I put up a statement saying, ‘I really hate Trump. He’s causing trauma and nightmares.’ That was my original post,” she said. “A whole bunch of people responded to that.”

Later in the thread, in response to another commenter, she wrote: “I hope Trump is assassinated!”

She later deleted the comment.

“It was wrong for me to post that,” Chappelle-Nadal said. “But I am not going to shy away from the damage this president is causing.”

In Charlottesville, white nationalists and counterprotesters clashed over the removal of a Confederate monument. An alleged white supremacist drove his car into a crowd near the city’s downtown mall, killing a 32-year-old woman.

Trump reacted to the events in Charlottesville by saying “both sides” were to blame for the violence, comments that drew immediate criticism from across the political spectrum.

Chappelle-Nadal noted that it was recently the three-year anniversary of the fatal shooting of Michael Brown by a police officer in Ferguson — a city she represents in the Missouri Senate. Additionally, the NAACP recently issued a travel advisory for Missouri, warning people to be careful while in the state because of a danger that civil rights won’t be respected.

“There are people who are afraid of going out in the streets. It’s worse than even Ferguson.”

Trump’s comments “make it easier for racists to be racists,” Chappelle-Nadal said.

“As long as I have a voice,” she said, “I’m going to talk about the damage (Trump) is creating in this nation.”

Her Facebook comment, which was first reported by a conservative radio host in St. Louis, was condemned by Senate Minority Leader Gina Walsh, a St. Louis County Democrat.

“Promoting, supporting or suggesting violence against anyone, especially our elected leaders, is never acceptable,” Walsh said in a statement. “There is too much rancor and hate in today’s political discourse, and Sen. Chappelle-Nadal should be ashamed of herself for adding her voice to this toxic environment.”

McCaskill, a Democrat, released a statement on Chappelle-Nadal’s comment, saying “I condemn it. It’s outrageous. And she should resign.”

Stephen Webber, chairman of the Missouri Democratic Party, agreed that Chappelle-Nadal should resign.

“State Sen. Chappelle-Nadal’s comments are indefensible,” Webber said. “All sides need to agree that there is no room for suggestions of political violence in America — and the Missouri Democratic Party will absolutely not tolerate calls for the assassination of the president. I believe she should resign.”

Missouri Auditor Nicole Galloway, a Columbia Democrat, tweeted that Chappelle-Nadal’s “words and sentiments are absolutely unacceptable. Violent rhetoric has no place in our political discourse.”

Rep. Shamed Dogan, a St. Louis County Republican, joined in the condemnation of Chappelle-Nadal.

“I don’t care what the president says or how mad you are, you don’t call for his assassination,” he posted on Twitter. “Especially if you’re an elected official.”

Chappelle-Nadal was adamant in her interview with The Star that “I’m not resigning.”

 

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FELIX SATER, TRUMP BUSINESS PARTNER, REPORTEDLY TELLS FAMILY HE IS PREPARING FOR PRISON TIME WITH POTUS

Felix Sater, a longtime business partner of Donald Trump, has reportedly told his family that he is preparing to go to prison with Trump, according to a new report by the Spectator.

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Felix Henry Sater is a Russian-born American real estate developer and former managing director of NYC-based real estate company Bayrock Group LLC. He allegedly has deep ties to the Russian mafia and the Russian government.

He has a well-known history of legal trouble due to his personal and business activities. He did prison time after he slashed a man’s face with a broken margarita glass at El Rio Grande, a bar in Manhattan. He served 15 months at Edgecombe Correctional Facility, according to The Daily Beast.

 

Sater is now reportedly cooperating with FBI agents investigating an international money-laundering network that could involve Trump’s business organization. Sater is believed to have helped to move “dirty money” from several wealthy Eastern European families to invest in U.S. real estate. Sater helped Viktor Khrapunov, a notorious former Soviet official and Kazakh politician, to invest allegedly embezzled government funds in U.S. real estate, including apartments in Trump Soho, according to Financial Times.

..Believe me, it ain’t anything as small as whether or not they’re gonna call me to the Senate committee.” Oh?

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Trump should be worried about the news that Sater is helping the FBI to investigate the sale of Trump condos to Russian investors because Sater is known to have acted as an FBI informant in the past, divulging information about close business associates as part of a witness immunity deal after he pleaded guilty in 1998 to playing a role in a $40 million stock fraud scheme.

According to the report by Paul Wood, published on the Spectator, sources close to Sater revealed that he announced to his family that he is preparing to go to prison after Special Counsel Robert Mueller began probing Trump’s recent business activities. Sources reportedly said that Mueller’s investigation might have uncovered shady transactions involving Trump organization and Sater.

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The Spectator reported that sources close to the investigation said Sater might have agreed to furnish prosecutors with the evidence they need to bring a case against Trump.

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Rumors that Sater could be cooperating with law enforcement to furnish Mueller with relevant information about the sale of Trump condos to Russians investors have been making the rounds for some months. The rumors gained ground after Sater hinted in an interview with the New York Magazine earlier this month that he could be helping law enforcement in an investigation.

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“In about the next 30 to 35 days, I will be the most colorful character you have ever talked about,” Sater reportedly said. “Unfortunately, I can’t talk about it now, before it happens. And believe me, it ain’t anything as small as whether or not they’re gonna call me to the Senate committee.”

The Spectator noted that Trump recently made remarks about the condo deals that suggest he could be afraid that investigators will uncover his business links to international money laundering operations.

“I mean, it’s possible there’s a condo or something, so, you know, I sell a lot of condo units, and somebody from Russia buys a condo, who knows?”
Trump also recently issued a warning to Mueller not to investigate his family business beyond the scope of his Russian investigation. According to the Independent, Trump appeared to threaten Mueller, saying that he has damaging information about him.

He said that Mueller’s appointment was a conflict of interest and that there “were many other conflicts” he would reveal in the future.

“There were many other conflicts that I haven’t said, but I will at some point.”

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BREAKING: Reliable Source Says Donald Trump Planning On Resigning; This is HUGE

Donald Trump seems to be hanging on to his presidency by a very thin thread.

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The co-author of Donald Trump’s memoir The Art of the Deal has predicted that the neo-Nazi supporter will definitely resign by the fall if not sooner. According to the Independent, Tony Schwartz, who claims to have ghostwritten the 1987 best-selling business book, argued that Trump is on the brink of stepping down and said he would be shocked if his presidency lasts until the end of the year.

Mr. Schwartz indiciated that Trump is more likely to resign if Mueller finds   some incriminating information from his financial records.

In a statement, Schwartz says:

“The circle is closing at blinding speed. Trump is going to resign and declare victory before Mueller and Congress leave him no choice”.

“Trump’s presidency is effectively over. Would be amazed if he survives till the end of the year. More likely resigns by fall, if not sooner.”

The author argued resistance against the president, who has drawn fierce criticism for drawing moral equivalence between white supremacists and anti-fascists in the wake of Charlottesville, must be maintained despite his resignation being imminent.

He says:

 “Trump must be isolated. Resistance every day. The end is near but must keep pressure high.”

He adds:

“The end game is on: Trump goes down or we do. He will blow up the world to prove he matters. We must stand up in opposition every day

Sources say that Schwartz got to know Trump very well while working on The Art of the Deal, saying he spent hours upon hours talking to him about his life, listening to him speak and generally observing him in action. This author has literally studied Trump to the core–so if anyone knows his mentality when it comes to the presidency– it’s Schwartz.

Trump is a weak, ineffective, unfit president who makes irrational and rather harmful decisions.  His resignation would by-far be the best decision he has ever made.

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Leaked: Insiders Reveal That Trump’s New Chief Of Staff Really Wants Out

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Donald Trump only knows how to test the patience of EVERYONE around him. The SERIOUS people around him, who actually want to get work done, keep jumping ship. Who wants to associate themselves with Trump? Apparently not even his new Chief of Staff

John Kelly is reported to be so over Trump and it hasn’t even been long since he’s taken the position at the White House. As reported by The Chicago Tribune, Kelly is supposed to be the BIG GUY running the show.  He routes all calls to and from  Donald Trump through the White House switchboard, where he can sign off on them. He stanches the flow of information reaching the president’s desk. And he requires that all staff members – including Trump‘s relatives – go through him to reach the president.

 

However, Trump’s response to the Charlottesville Riots throws Kelly’s whole job out of the window. His disrespectful speech ‘blaming both sides’ even took Kelly by surprise. It was caught the photo of him standing with crossed arms and with his head hanging low, that proved it to be true.

One White House Official, who wanted to remain anonymous, told the Chicago Tribune,

The Kelly era was a bright, shining interlude between failed attempts to right the Trump presidency and it has now come to a close after a short but glorious run. Like all people who work for the president, he has since experienced the limits of the president’s promises to cooperate in order to ensure the success of the enterprise.

Trump is about to lose the best person on his team and after that, no one will want to fill that position, along with all the other empty positions in Trump’s White House.

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Ivana Trump Reveals Donald Kept One Of Hitler’s Books Next To His Bed (DETAILS)

In the midst of President Trump’s tepid response to the Charlottesville events, some chilling information has been unearthed by some savvy social media users. A 1990 article from Vanity Fair details some disturbing information related to Trump that could be new to some. According to the article, Trump’s first wife, Ivana, had revealed to people on several occasions that Trump admired Adolf Hitler.

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The Vanity Fair article reads:

‘John Walter works for the Trump Organization, and when he visits Donald in his office, Ivana told a friend, he clicks his heels and says, “Heil Hitler,” possibly as a family joke’

The article also continued to say:

‘Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed.’

Trump’s lawyer, Kennedy asked him if his cousin gave him the Hitler speeches, to which Trump said:

‘Who told you that?’

When Kennedy said he didn’t know, Trump responded:

‘Actually it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf and he’s a Jew.’

Well, that wasn’t quite the truth. Marty Davis was asked about it and this is what he told the lawyer:

‘I did give him a book about Hitler, but it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf . I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend but I’m not Jewish.’

On Tuesday evening, shortly after Trump gave his speech, Bustle’s Mehreen Kasana posted an excerpt of the article on Facebook, so all could read about Trump’s admiration for Hitler and the Nazis. The excerpt detailed the conversation with Trump’s lawyer about the Hitler book and Marty Davis.

Towards the end of that conversation, Trump tried to wiggle his way out by saying:

If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.’

No one is buying what he said back then and the majority of people aren’t buying what he says now, especially not in light of recent events. Maya Angelou once said “When people show you who they are, believe them.” Trump has shown everyone who he is and now is the time to believe him.

This tweet shows the excerpt from the 1990 Vanity Fair article.

This detail from a 1990 Vanity Fair article on Trump seems newly relevant (yet again)

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